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Decline and Fall of the U.S.?

Posted on: May 5, 2008 8:55 am
 
Last night, Viktor Krapper and I had a great discussion about how messed up our country is. It all stemmed from coaches being interviewed at the end of quarters and went on to things to may become the fall of our civilization. It was a great discussion that could have went on forever, but we have other things to do besides post on CBS all night.

Check it out, you might be interested:


Viktor:

Why the heck do people need to be entertained every waking second of a game? Please for goodness sake, let a basketball game be a basketball game. How do you expect the game to have any credibility if you turn into a circus, which is pretty much what they have done. If you want to see morons jump through flaming hoops, go to the circus. If you want to see scantily clad women dance, go to a strip club.

It's the same with this bullcrap interviewing of coach's between quarters.This has got to stop immediately. It is a complete joke. What do you expect coaches are going to say? Actually meaningful insight towards the game? Let the coaches focus on the game for goodness sake.

This is the NBA playoffs for goodness sake. If you need all this crap to keep your interest, you have no business watching basketball.

When's the last time you've seen a halftime show at a European soccer match? Stop embarrassing our nation. I bet the international audience had to be cracking up at our stupidity.

And they wonder why so many kids are being diagnosed with ADD?

If people can't sit still at a frickin basketball game for 90 seconds without being entertained, how do they expect kids to manage in class?

Stop trying to turn this into entertainment. It's a basketball game. I watch basketball to see basketball, not to see morons jump through flaming hoops and sideline reporters ask ridiculous questions to coaches who want to get out of there as soon as possible.

Please somebody tell David Stern to stop hijacking the game of basketball with his crap. There have been some well played games for the most part for once, and they have to drag this crap into it. Just stop already.

Big B:

That's great Viktor, but as long as we are controlled by the media, this will never change. It's a sad realization, but it's unfortunately inevitable.

Viktor:

Yip. It is.

It's just sad to see our intelligence go down before our very eyes.

I just feel that we are owed to see basketball being played, not this fabricated entertainment package. But you're right, it will never happen.


Big B:

I've been watching this new show from Lewis Black, "Root of all Evil" that has really shown how bad America has gotten. With things like YouTube, reality shows like "A Shot at Love" and "Flavor of Love", etc. it just goes to show how much the IQ of our nation has dropped.

It is really sad to see this kind of stuff happening right before us, but as long as there are a few us of still sane enough to realize this, we will survive....but who knows how long.


Viktor:

That's the problem when money is valued over wisdom.

In our society money is used as a scorecard to dictate who the winners and loser are. It's not what you contribute to society, it's how much money you make.

My dad's theory is that the reason the US will face a hefty decline is that our "brightest" are going into law rather than something more useful...


Big B:

You're dad's exactly right. Now days, or smartest people are going into business or whatever career will pay the most money. If those people would actually try to go into government or politics and take a leadership role, we wouldn't have to deal with people like George Bush as our leaders.

Viktor:

Yip. Why is the US falling way behind Japan or even the socialist Scandanavian countries in terms of technology? Because you have to be a sucker to go into an engineering or technological field in the US.

Viktor:

The American goal has become to make as much money doing as little as possible.

It was inevitable we were going to face an economic because you can't ride high without putting the work in like we were doing. That was completely false.

Maybe we can reassess our priorities.

I think these "Elite" colleges have a lot to do with our downfall. That's why I wouldn't be caught dead going to one of them. Elitism is killing our country.


Big B:

It's sad to realize it, but we as a civilization are on a decline.

I am a history guy, so I once had to do a paper on the compare and contrast on the Fall of the Roman Empire to the U.S. now. They are almost eerie similar to each other. We are heading on the same path as the Romans were. We peaked, and are now declining and heading towards the end of our civilization. It's kind of scary to think about, but its unfortunately and very real scenario.


Viktor:

You know I'm from South Africa, and our country is going down the absolute krapper.

The sad thing, is the same stuff seems to be happening here. The time has come where it's not even news that someone got shot and killed in Chicago. The lower class has become so disillusioned that life no longer has value. It's just a matter of time until the violence spreads.


Big B:

Another eerie similarity to the fall of the Roman empire as well. I just hope I'm not around when things get really bad.




As I said before, we could have went on with this forever, but decided we would continue this discussion at a later time. Look for more of this discussion to come in the future.......
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Posted on: May 5, 2008 8:56 am

Decline and Fall of the U.S.?

If anyone else has anything to add to this, feel free to say what you think about it. It's nice to have these serious conversations sometimes to get a break from arguing over the NBA playoffs, hockey playoffs, beginning of the baseball season, NFL Draft and offseason, etc.



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Posted on: May 5, 2008 9:53 am

Decline and Fall of the U.S.?

You know B. there are too many things wrong with this country. I still wouldn't live anywhere else, but the US has problems no doubt. This country quit caring about itself. Greed and stupidity abound. The rich prey on the poor and undereducated. For example: infomercials, credit programs with interest rates of 29%, car sales with high credit programs. This puts less fortunate people in situations that only makes their lives worse. Our dependance on oil has driven prices to an all time high, yet minimum wage still remains the same. Prices reflect on everything due to high gas prices putting more stress on the average citiizen. Small business owners can't stay open due to the lack of spending by the general public. Even large corporate stores are closing their doors due to the lack of disposable income, i.e. Sharper Image. Corporate America has Amercians by the perverbial "Dangling Berrys"! They pay as little as possible, work you as much as possible, and to recieve a 3% increase after a year of busting your hump would be a great thing. Corporations are cutting full time employees in order to bring in more part time employees as to not pay soaring insurance rates. Man, I don't even want to get started on health care. The housing industry is at it's lowest point in years, yet if you look a the construction of new homes, its hard to believe. People are buying homes on false promises, such as an incident in Florida where people were promised a subdivision with parks, and othere amenities. After the homes were built, no parks, no amenities. more than half the homes sat empty due to being sold as investment homes, and the builder was nowhere in sight. Probably realxing quite comfortably in another country. Crime in this country is staggering. The worse thing is that most of it is legal, if you know what I mean. I had debated about being a law oficer in my early years but was talked out of it by other officers who had already saw what it was like. I have family in law, and regret ever getting into it. Arresting the same individuals 10-15-20 times. It is ridiculous. And since we are on Sportsline, look at the income of an average MLB player. He makes 1.25 million a year, and the President of the US makes $400,000. Your local health care provider may make 90-100K a year. When a country cast more votes for an American Idol than a President tells you something. When people care more about the latest Brittany Spears incident than the latest on the war in Iraq tells you something. I worked at large home improvement store and actually had several occasions where people asked me where thing were because they did not know how to read. This is pitiful. It's going to be tough for a while no doubt!  



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Decline and Fall of the U.S.?



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Posted on: May 6, 2008 2:33 am

Decline and Fall of the U.S.?

I love America.  I never want to live anywhere else.  I've become adapted and comfortable with the culture and I expect stupid things from a majority of the people that live here.  Bottom line is I can put up with a few media obsessed Americans and some people who tap too far into celebrities personal lives because number one .. I don't care about either of the topics .. and number two .. it doesn't concern or affect me.  Everyone else lives their lives how they want to live .. and I live my life how I want to live.

As an American I have that right .. and I also have the right to degrade the people that are obsessed with the Lohan's, Spears', and Hilton's of this world.



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Posted on: May 7, 2008 4:42 pm

Decline and Fall of the U.S.?

How does our current economy compare to, say, 1933's? You guys are a bunch of whiners.



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